
Episode 2: Boredom is Our Kryptonite
“Welcome back to Grandma Has ADHD! In this second part of our inaugural episode, hosts Jami Shapiro and Justin Shepherd dive deeper into the fascinating
What happens when ADHD, trauma, and the patterns we inherit from our families overlap?
Jami Shapiro sits down with licensed marriage and family therapist Virginia Wilcsek, founder of The Transcending Pathway, for an honest conversation about ADHD, narcissism, generational trauma, and the nervous system.
Virginia shares her experience growing up with a narcissistic parent and how that eventually shaped her work helping people heal from trauma and difficult relationships. Together, she and Jami explore how growing up around emotional dysregulation, chaos, neglect, or caregivers who weren’t attuned to us can affect the way we learn to regulate ourselves.
They also unpack an important and complicated question: where does ADHD end and trauma begin? While ADHD and trauma are not the same thing, they can share characteristics such as emotional dysregulation, impulsivity, difficulty focusing, and executive functioning challenges. Virginia explains why biology, development, environment, and our family experiences can all be pieces of the larger story.
For many adults discovering ADHD later in life, understanding their brain can also bring up questions about their childhood and family history.
Maybe a parent struggled with emotional regulation. Maybe home never felt completely predictable or safe. Maybe behaviors you once thought were simply part of your personality make more sense when you consider both ADHD and the experiences that shaped you.
As Virginia explains, the relationship between ADHD and trauma isn’t an either/or question. ADHD has neurological and biological components, while our developmental experiences and environment also shape how we learn to respond to the world.
Virginia shares a simple four-part breathing exercise for moments when you feel overwhelmed or dysregulated:
Then notice: Were you holding your breath? Were you bracing? Did anything shift when you gave your nervous system a moment to regroup?
Jami asks Virginia: If you could press a button and no longer have ADHD, would you press it?
Virginia’s answer is an emphatic no.
She shares that one of her favorite parts of ADHD is having many different interests, projects, and passions. What might feel “scattered” to someone else allows her to explore different ideas, support people in different ways, and continually discover something new.
Virginia Wilcsek is a licensed marriage and family therapist and founder of The Transcending Pathway, a California-based group practice specializing in trauma, complex PTSD, depression, anxiety, grief, loss of identity, and healing from pathological relationships.
Virginia is also a certified breathwork trauma facilitator and incorporates somatic approaches into her work, helping clients understand not only their thoughts and emotions but how their experiences can show up in the body and nervous system.
Jami Shapiro is an ADHD coach, speaker, author, and founder of Silver Linings Transitions. Through Grandma Has ADHD, she helps adults, especially women discovering ADHD later in life, better understand their brains, let go of shame, and find tools that work for the way they’re wired.
Website: The Transcending Pathway
Instagram: @thetranscendingpathway
Website: jamishapiro.me
Book: This Explains So Much by Jami Shapiro
If something in this conversation sounds familiar, Virginia leaves listeners with a simple reminder for those moments of overwhelm, self-doubt, or dysregulation:
“It is not a you problem, it is a nervous system that never learned to feel safe.”

“Welcome back to Grandma Has ADHD! In this second part of our inaugural episode, hosts Jami Shapiro and Justin Shepherd dive deeper into the fascinating

“Welcome to Part 1 of the Grandma Has ADHD podcast, hosted by Jami Shapiro and Justin Shepherd. In this inaugural episode, we kick things off

The “OG Original Grandma” describes her life with Jami and Justin since discovering like her daughter and grandchild, she too shared the hereditary trait of ADHD.
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