
Episode 2: Boredom is Our Kryptonite
“Welcome back to Grandma Has ADHD! In this second part of our inaugural episode, hosts Jami Shapiro and Justin Shepherd dive deeper into the fascinating
In this episode of Grandma Has ADHD, Jami Shapiro sits down with developmental psychologist, ADHD coach, and mindfulness practitioner Dr. Cheryl Browne for a thoughtful conversation about the overlap between ADHD and autism—and why more adults, especially women, are discovering they identify with both later in life.
Cheryl shares her own late-diagnosis journey, reflecting on decades of succeeding academically while quietly relying on last-minute deadlines, workarounds, and intense curiosity to navigate life. Together, she and Jami explore the growing conversation around AuDHD, the combination of ADHD and autism, and discuss where these neurotypes overlap, where they differ, and why understanding your unique brain can lead to greater self-compassion.
They also talk about mindfulness, aging with ADHD, and why many people find greater confidence, resilience, and emotional well-being later in life.
Many adults discover ADHD later in life only to realize there may be other pieces of their neurodivergent story they haven’t yet explored.
This episode encourages listeners to approach these discoveries with curiosity rather than labels, reminding us that understanding how our brains work allows us to build lives that work with us, not against us.
Jami asks every guest: If there were a button that could remove your ADHD forever, would you press it?
Cheryl’s answer is an immediate no.
While ADHD has brought challenges, she believes it has also shaped the life she loves today. After years of learning how her brain works, she feels the strengths now outweigh the struggles.
Dr. Cheryl Browne is a developmental psychologist, certified ADHD coach, and mindfulness practitioner. Drawing on her own late ADHD diagnosis and decades of research, she helps adults, particularly those diagnosed later in life, better understand their neurodivergent brains and build lives that align with their strengths. She has degrees from Yale University and The University of Texas at Austin.
Jami Shapiro is an ADHD coach, speaker, author, and founder of Silver Linings Transitions. Through Grandma Has ADHD, she helps adults, especially women diagnosed later in life, better understand their brains and navigate life with greater clarity and compassion.

“Welcome back to Grandma Has ADHD! In this second part of our inaugural episode, hosts Jami Shapiro and Justin Shepherd dive deeper into the fascinating

“Welcome to Part 1 of the Grandma Has ADHD podcast, hosted by Jami Shapiro and Justin Shepherd. In this inaugural episode, we kick things off

The “OG Original Grandma” describes her life with Jami and Justin since discovering like her daughter and grandchild, she too shared the hereditary trait of ADHD.
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